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		<title>By: Rosa Say</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rosa Say</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 21:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry I didn’t explain Brad! My thought was connected to what Meryl mentioned about considering categories for within your site, and tags for external sites like Technorati, Delicious, and StumbleUpon, &lt;b&gt;and then&lt;/b&gt; looking at it empathetically, i.e.

---internally being what I think of as blog administrator (whether sole-blogger or administrator of a group blog like Joyful Jubilant Learning), and then
---externally being if I did a mind-map from a reader’s point of view (or from my participating JJL authors) point of view.

I am primarily a visual learner and thinker, and I like to draw pictures and mindmaps w/good old pencil and paper. As far as categories and tags go, some past blog design mindmaps I have done for Ho‘ohana Publishing have looked like a nightmare, and I knew I had to trim. As a sidenote, doing them in Hawaiian was a big help to me at times, for we use way less Hawaiian words: English is far too adjective-complicated. Come actual “hit publish” time, I’d go back to English after the Hawaiian gave me focus.

The mindmapping has helped me be more objective, because as an author versus an editor, I can get way too emotionally connected to things – even my categories and tags LOL! After much very messy learning on JJL, I finally started using categories very, very sparingly + for authors indexes only (but that is part of a TypePad limitation story).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry I didn’t explain Brad! My thought was connected to what Meryl mentioned about considering categories for within your site, and tags for external sites like Technorati, Delicious, and StumbleUpon, <b>and then</b> looking at it empathetically, i.e.</p>
<p>&#8212;internally being what I think of as blog administrator (whether sole-blogger or administrator of a group blog like Joyful Jubilant Learning), and then<br />
&#8212;externally being if I did a mind-map from a reader’s point of view (or from my participating JJL authors) point of view.</p>
<p>I am primarily a visual learner and thinker, and I like to draw pictures and mindmaps w/good old pencil and paper. As far as categories and tags go, some past blog design mindmaps I have done for Ho‘ohana Publishing have looked like a nightmare, and I knew I had to trim. As a sidenote, doing them in Hawaiian was a big help to me at times, for we use way less Hawaiian words: English is far too adjective-complicated. Come actual “hit publish” time, I’d go back to English after the Hawaiian gave me focus.</p>
<p>The mindmapping has helped me be more objective, because as an author versus an editor, I can get way too emotionally connected to things – even my categories and tags LOL! After much very messy learning on JJL, I finally started using categories very, very sparingly + for authors indexes only (but that is part of a TypePad limitation story).</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Shorr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad Shorr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 21:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rosa, internal versus external mind mapping? Where can I learn more about that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rosa, internal versus external mind mapping? Where can I learn more about that?</p>
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		<title>By: Rosa Say</title>
		<link>http://www.straightnorth.com/blog/is-your-blog-suffering-from-category-creep/comment-page-1/#comment-2364</link>
		<dc:creator>Rosa Say</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 21:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh boy, I am saving this gem of collaborative learning and community aloha, and rereading it carefully! Thank you Brad for jump-starting this conversation, and mahalo to all who have participated; now 4 years  and several blogs into my own online publishing, this subject (and never-ending challenge) of category and tagging creep is a biggie for me. The internal versus external mind-mapping has been somewhat helpful, especially when I&#039;ve dealt with our group blog, Joyful Jubilant Learning, but argh... so much more to learn!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh boy, I am saving this gem of collaborative learning and community aloha, and rereading it carefully! Thank you Brad for jump-starting this conversation, and mahalo to all who have participated; now 4 years  and several blogs into my own online publishing, this subject (and never-ending challenge) of category and tagging creep is a biggie for me. The internal versus external mind-mapping has been somewhat helpful, especially when I&#8217;ve dealt with our group blog, Joyful Jubilant Learning, but argh&#8230; so much more to learn!</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Shorr</title>
		<link>http://www.straightnorth.com/blog/is-your-blog-suffering-from-category-creep/comment-page-1/#comment-2363</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Shorr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 14:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, Your response here takes a load off my mind - you boiled down the whole SEO question to the basics. Mucho thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, Your response here takes a load off my mind &#8211; you boiled down the whole SEO question to the basics. Mucho thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Cree</title>
		<link>http://www.straightnorth.com/blog/is-your-blog-suffering-from-category-creep/comment-page-1/#comment-2362</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Cree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 14:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brad, your SEO question is a lively one that is heavily debated in some circles. I guess the question comes down to the SEO advantages of having keywords in the URL vs. the disadvantages of having unwieldy long URLs that dilute the effectiveness of the keywords. I don&#039;t think there is any one &quot;right&quot; answer on that one.

Meryl, I used the Ultimate Tag Warrior plugin until WordPress added tagging as a native functionality a while back. UTW did have many more options, including passing tags to Technorati. I&#039;m confident that WP will add in some of that functionality over time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad, your SEO question is a lively one that is heavily debated in some circles. I guess the question comes down to the SEO advantages of having keywords in the URL vs. the disadvantages of having unwieldy long URLs that dilute the effectiveness of the keywords. I don&#8217;t think there is any one &#8220;right&#8221; answer on that one.</p>
<p>Meryl, I used the Ultimate Tag Warrior plugin until WordPress added tagging as a native functionality a while back. UTW did have many more options, including passing tags to Technorati. I&#8217;m confident that WP will add in some of that functionality over time.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Shorr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad Shorr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 12:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Meryl, that&#039;s a good distinction about internal vs. external tags. The tags I&#039;ve been thinking about are internal, for helping people search through your blog. Those seem useful to me. I&#039;m not sure how those external tags work ... but they seem to be widely used.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Meryl, that&#8217;s a good distinction about internal vs. external tags. The tags I&#8217;ve been thinking about are internal, for helping people search through your blog. Those seem useful to me. I&#8217;m not sure how those external tags work &#8230; but they seem to be widely used.</p>
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		<title>By: Meryl K. Evans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meryl K. Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 12:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a tag app now... but didn&#039;t when I first started tagging. So it&#039;s quite a mess. I also don&#039;t like that the tags look at only my posts -- I think tags should take folks to another resource like Technorati (mine used to do that, but not anymore). Categories for within your site... tags for external sites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a tag app now&#8230; but didn&#8217;t when I first started tagging. So it&#8217;s quite a mess. I also don&#8217;t like that the tags look at only my posts &#8212; I think tags should take folks to another resource like Technorati (mine used to do that, but not anymore). Categories for within your site&#8230; tags for external sites.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Shorr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad Shorr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 12:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karen, some of the comments following yours might help you with your slimy category problem. Meryl &amp; Steve, in WordPress, there is a tag prompter that displays tags you&#039;ve already used as you type a tag name into the tag field box on a new post. This is really helpful in terms of preventing &quot;tag creep&quot;. Like Merly, I wonder why dates would be a default setting in a permalink. ?

Joanna and Chris, my question/issue with changing the permalink structure to eliminate categories from the URL is this - if the category name is a keyword, isn&#039;t it beneficial from an SEO standpoint to have that keyword repeated in all those URL&#039;s?

Thanks to all of you for your comments, ideas, and questions!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karen, some of the comments following yours might help you with your slimy category problem. Meryl &amp; Steve, in WordPress, there is a tag prompter that displays tags you&#8217;ve already used as you type a tag name into the tag field box on a new post. This is really helpful in terms of preventing &#8220;tag creep&#8221;. Like Merly, I wonder why dates would be a default setting in a permalink. ?</p>
<p>Joanna and Chris, my question/issue with changing the permalink structure to eliminate categories from the URL is this &#8211; if the category name is a keyword, isn&#8217;t it beneficial from an SEO standpoint to have that keyword repeated in all those URL&#8217;s?</p>
<p>Thanks to all of you for your comments, ideas, and questions!!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Cree</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Cree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 11:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and Joanna is right. I changed the permalink structure on my own blog a while back to one I considered more SEO friendly. I used the &lt;a href=&quot;http://urbangiraffe.com/plugins/advanced-permalinks/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Advanced Permalinks&lt;/a&gt; plugin to automatically redirect my old URLs to the new system.

On BIG word of caution with that plugin is that it is no longer supported by the plugin author. So use it with extreme caution.

I didn&#039;t find another plugin that will do the same thing with a quick Google search. Unfortunately I don&#039;t have time this AM to do a thorough check.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and Joanna is right. I changed the permalink structure on my own blog a while back to one I considered more SEO friendly. I used the <a href="http://urbangiraffe.com/plugins/advanced-permalinks/" rel="nofollow">Advanced Permalinks</a> plugin to automatically redirect my old URLs to the new system.</p>
<p>On BIG word of caution with that plugin is that it is no longer supported by the plugin author. So use it with extreme caution.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t find another plugin that will do the same thing with a quick Google search. Unfortunately I don&#8217;t have time this AM to do a thorough check.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Cree</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Cree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 11:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s how I explain the difference between tags and categories to my clients:

If a blog post is like a file folder, full of information, then your categories are like the drawers you put the posts into. Since you can&#039;t put a file folder into more than one drawer at a time then you probably shouldn&#039;t put a post into more than one category at a time, generally speaking. And it would be a bit of a waste of space to have an entire drawer with only one folder in it.

Following that analogy then tags would be like stickers you&#039;d put on the file folders so you could tell at a glance what you put in the folder. There&#039;s no reason why you can&#039;t put several stickers on the file folder. And you may have stickers that you use only once because that&#039;s the only time you mentioned that specific topic (person/company/idea/etc.) in your blog.

There are a couple advantages to using both categories and tags. Using both well will help your readers (and you) find the right blog post easier when looking for specific information. There is also a strong SEO benefit to using both well.

Tags are little pieces of information that the search engines weigh heavily when ranking web pages. Tagging well will help your posts rank higher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s how I explain the difference between tags and categories to my clients:</p>
<p>If a blog post is like a file folder, full of information, then your categories are like the drawers you put the posts into. Since you can&#8217;t put a file folder into more than one drawer at a time then you probably shouldn&#8217;t put a post into more than one category at a time, generally speaking. And it would be a bit of a waste of space to have an entire drawer with only one folder in it.</p>
<p>Following that analogy then tags would be like stickers you&#8217;d put on the file folders so you could tell at a glance what you put in the folder. There&#8217;s no reason why you can&#8217;t put several stickers on the file folder. And you may have stickers that you use only once because that&#8217;s the only time you mentioned that specific topic (person/company/idea/etc.) in your blog.</p>
<p>There are a couple advantages to using both categories and tags. Using both well will help your readers (and you) find the right blog post easier when looking for specific information. There is also a strong SEO benefit to using both well.</p>
<p>Tags are little pieces of information that the search engines weigh heavily when ranking web pages. Tagging well will help your posts rank higher.</p>
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